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Batteries for the Sparrow

When my Sparrow could no longer make it to work and back at speeds greater than 20mph, I had to figure out how to fix it.  I had read warnings against having an "unbalanced" battery pack. The manual from Corbin recommended replacing all of the batteries as soon as you were unable to drive the distance you need to go. It looked like I was going to have to spend about $2000 on a new set of batteries.

I am basically cheap, and was resistant to buying a whole new pack. In order to keep my Sparrow as cost effective as possible, I wanted to wring every mile I could out of each and every battery. Lacking an understood danger, I set about trying to determine how many batteries I needed to replace.

My "battery experiment" is to replace only the weakest battery or two when the pack voltage drops low enough that I don't make it home, or that I fear that I may not make it home the next day.

Identifying the weak batteries

Finding the weak battery is not easy. At first I tried to measure the voltage of each battery in the pack while it was sitting in my garage. This proved they were all within a few tenths of a volt of each other.

Next, I went to the local BatteriesPlus store where they could test the "Cold Cranking Amps" of each battery. I assume their meter measures the voltage with no load, and then measures it again with a several Amp load. The meter was not very big, so it could not be drawing many amps for very long and be able to dissipate the heat. They did not know exactly what the meter did, but it said each of my batteries could deliver over 1000 CCA which was above the spec. for a Yellow Top.

I decided I needed to drive my car until I had exhausted at least one battery and my voltage was sagging. Once in this state I could check the voltages of each battery. After driving 10 miles, my voltage was down to about 120V. As soon as I stopped, the voltage would rise back to 160V, and when I put my voltmeter on each battery they were all within a few tenths of a volt of each other.

I knew I could only test my batteries under load to figure out which were the weak ones. I messed around with using the emergency brake and chock blocks to try and hold the car still while I pressed the accelerator to draw enough current to lower the pack voltage, but nothing worked. I was going to have to drive the Sparrow to create my load.

I jammed a probe from my meter under the battery connectors of a battery under the seat, replaced the seat, and with my meter in my lap, floored the Sparrow down the street and when the pack voltage dropped below 130V, I read the meter.

I went around the block 7 times that day, once for each battery under the seat. After each trip I would move the meter leads to a different battery. Sometimes the leads would fall off and I would stop part way around the block and put them back on.

Using this technique I found one of my batteries was dropping to 2 Volts, and another was dropping to 8. The rest were above 11. I replaced these two batteries and was able to drive to work and back again. I was lucky the weak batteries were under the seat where my test leads would reach and I could identify them.

A more practical test

A few months later I couldn't make it work and back without the voltage dipping below 150 V. Then a few days later I could not maintain the speed limit. It was time to test the batteries again.

I was ready this time. I had bought a new voltmeter that would lock in on the high or low voltage it saw while it was hooked up. I also bought alligator clips that could be snapped onto the test leads. I could clip the test leads to the bolts on the battery connectors, set the meter to watch for the low voltage, drive the Sparrow for a block or so. While driving I would keep one eye on the road, and one eye on the ammeter on the dash. I decided 100 Amps would be the load I would use for all tests.

After holding the current at 100 Amps for a second or two, I could stop the car and safely check the low voltage captured by my new meter. If I was checking the voltage of a battery under the seat the meter would be on the floor of the cab. If I was checking a battery under the hood, the meter would be tucked in under the closed hood while I drove.

This plan was fine except for two problems. First, it takes about 2 hours to check all of the batteries this way. Second, there is one battery (#9 in the diagram below) where you cannot reach both terminals. Math can be used solve these problems.

The real battery test

There is no rule that a meter can only measure the voltage of one battery at a time. If I could put my meter across 6 of the batteries, I would know what their total voltage was. I could use this to figure the average of those 6. Comparing this to the pack average, I would know if the weak one was in that set of six or not. There is an assumption here that there is only one weak battery.

In one measurement I would eliminate half of the batteries from my search. If the weak battery were in the six, I would repeat the experiment on 3 of those 6, and eliminate 3 more from the search. Then I would test 1 of the remaining three and eliminate one, or two batteries from the search.

Due to the layout of the batteries you can't easily test 6 at once. I would test the 5 I could under the hood (#4 through #8). If the weak one was there, I would continue the binary search under the hood. If they were strong, I would test the string of batteries #10 through #13 under the seat. If those were strong, the problem was in batteries #1, #2 or #3. This is sort of a "binary search".

In 4 test trips, I could identify the weak battery. Often, this was the only testing I would do before replacing a battery. Sometimes the battery I identified was not weak enough to be responsible for the voltage drop. Based on the readings, I would sometimes look for a second weak battery. Only once did I make 12 measurements.

Hardware Solution

In October of 2005 I built a circuit that eliminated the testing.

Sparrow battery numbering

The negative terminal of #1 is at ground
#4 through #9 are under the hood
#4 is actually stacked on #8 and #9

Battery Replacement Log

 

 

Installed

 

Retired

 

Life

 

 

miles per battery pack

 

 

Price

Notes

Battery

date

mileage

date

mileage

months

miles

 

optimist

pessimist

 

 

 

1

10/1/2001

300

5/3/2003

3700

19.0

3350

 

22,100

3,350

 

-

Factory replacement of pack. Marked "Blemish" and "Recond"

2

10/1/2001

300

5/3/2003

3700

19.0

3450

 

22,100

3,450

 

-

Factory replacement of pack. Marked "Blemish" and "Recond"

3

10/1/2001

300

9/27/2003

5000

23.9

4650

 

15,275

4,458

 

-

Factory replacement of pack. Marked "Blemish" and "Recond"

4

10/1/2001

300

9/27/2003

5000

23.9

4750

 

15,275

4,542

 

-

Factory replacement of pack. Marked "Blemish" and "Recond"

5

10/1/2001

300

10/12/2003

5200

24.3

4900

 

12,740

4,638

 

-

Factory replacement of pack. Marked "Blemish" and "Recond"

6

10/1/2001

300

9/4/2004

7200

35.1

6900

 

14,950

5,869

 

-

Factory replacement of pack. Marked "Blemish" and "Recond"

7

9/27/2003

5000

11/7/2004

7770

13.4

2770

 

13,873

5,933

 

135

BatteriesAreUs.com.  In garage for 14 months

8

10/1/2001

300

7/16/2005

9482

45.5

9182

 

14,921

6,789

 

-

Factory replacement of pack. Marked "Blemish" and "Recond" Died suddenly. I got towed home.

9

10/1/2001

300

8/15/2005

9738

46.5

9388

 

12,269

6,877

 

-

Factory replacement of pack. Marked "Blemish" and "Recond"

10

10/1/2001

300

8/15/2005

9738

46.5

9488

 

12,269

6,899

 

-

Factory replacement of pack. Marked "Blemish" and "Recond"

11

11/7/2004

7770

10/9/2005

10130

11.0

2360

 

11,617

6,701

 

135

BatteriesAreUs.com.

12

10/1/2001

300

11/20/2005

10541

49.6

10241

 

11,094

6,810

 

-

Factory replacement of pack. Marked "Blemish" and "Recond"

13

10/1/2001

300

12/28/2005

10800

50.9

10500

 

10,500

6,737

 

-

Factory replacement of pack. Marked "Blemish" and "Recond"

14

10/1/2001

300

1/12/2006

10840

51.4

10540

 

9,787

6,899

 

-

Factory replacement of pack. Marked "Blemish" and "Recond"  Died suddenly. After few hours of cool down I could drive home.

15

10/1/2001

300

3/18/2006

11231

53.5

10931

 

8,881

5,408

 

-

Factory replacement of pack. Marked "Blemish" and "Recond"

19

10/12/2003

5200

3/18/2006

11231

29.2

6031

 

8,881

5,408

 

135

BatteriesAreUs.com.

25

11/20/2005

10541

8/12/2006

12341

8.7

1800

 

9,208

6,793

 

139

BatteriesAreUs.com.  Had been returned

26

12/28/2005

10800

8/26/2006

12362

7.9

1562

 

8,253

6,010

 

137

Interstate Batteries

24

10/9/2005

10130

8/26/2006

12362

10.5

2232

 

8,253

6,010

 

155

BatteriesPlus

27

1/12/2006

10840

9/9/2006

12555

7.9

1715

 

7,586

6,034

 

139

BatteriesAreUs.com.

22

8/15/2005

9738

9/9/2006

12555

12.8

2817

 

7,586

6,034

 

155

BatteriesPlus

28

3/18/2006

11231

10/24/2006

12840

7.2

1609

 

7,410

5,891

 

147

Interstate Batteries (or maybe AutoZone)

18

9/27/2003

5000

6/22/2007

13986

44.8

8986

 

7,736

6,058

 

135

BatteriesAreUs.com.

30

8/12/2006

12341

8/25/2007

14516

12.4

2175

 

7,108

5,792

 

142

Interstate Batteries

31

8/29/2006

12362

8/25/2007

14516

11.9

2154

 

7,108

5,792

 

148

Interstate Batteries

16

9/27/2003

5000

8/25/2007

14516

46.9

9516

 

7,108

5,792

 

130

BatteriesAreUs.com.

33

9/9/2006

12555

9/9/2007

14639

12.0

2084

 

6,904

5,673

 

148

Interstate Batteries

32

8/26/2006

12362

9/15/2007

14712

12.6

2350

 

6,691

5,567

 

148

Interstate Batteries

34

9/9/2006

12555

9/19/2007

14747

12.3

2192

 

6,612

5,482

 

148

Interstate Batteries

17

5/3/2003

3700

11/24/2007

15255

54.7

11605

 

6,272

5,502

 

130

BatteriesAreUs.com.

20

9/4/2004

7200

11/24/2007

15255

38.6

8055

 

6,272

5,502

 

135

BatteriesAreUs.com.  In garage for 14 months

21

7/16/2005

9482

 

 

28.3

5773

 

 

 

 

155

BatteriesPlus

23

8/15/2005

9738

 

 

27.3

5517

 

 

 

 

155

BatteriesPlus

29

3/18/2006

11231

 

 

20.2

4024

 

 

 

 

170

AutoZone

35

10/24/2006

12840

 

 

13.0

2415

 

 

 

 

159

Interstate Batteries

36

6/23/2007

13986

 

 

5.1

1269

 

 

 

 

159

Interstate Batteries

37

8/25/2007

14516

 

 

3.0

739

 

 

 

 

159

Interstate Batteries

38

8/25/2007

14516

 

 

3.0

739

 

 

 

 

159

Interstate Batteries

39

8/25/2007

14516

 

 

3.0

739

 

 

 

 

159

Interstate Batteries

40

9/9/2007

14639

 

 

2.5

616

 

 

 

 

159

Interstate Batteries

41

9/15/2007

14712

 

 

2.3

543

 

 

 

 

159

Interstate Batteries

42

9/19/2007

14747

 

 

2.2

508

 

 

 

 

159

Interstate Batteries

43

11/24/2007

15255

 

 

0.0

0

 

 

 

 

159

Interstate Batteries

44

11/24/2007

15255

 

 

0.0

0

 

 

 

 

159

Interstate Batteries

 

The disturbing trend is that nearly all of the batteries I bought from August of 2005 to March of 2006 have failed in about a year, while older batteries are still in use.  It could be that Optima batteries do not last as long as they used to.

Battery life

At this point I have gone 15255 miles and have replaced 31 batteries. An optimist might say the 13 batteries in the car are good as new and so I have gotten 6,272 miles per pack. A pessimist might say the 13 batteries in the car are trashed and so my mileage is 5,502 miles per pack.

This graph shows how the optimistic and pessimistic estimates of my battery life have changed over time.

Conclusion

Corbin was probably right in recommending that all of the batteries be replaced at once. All this testing is not practical if you are running a business. You can spend an hour or two testing each time a battery fails. Replacing one battery takes about an hour if it is under the hood, or a half an hour if it is under the seat. If I were to take my sparrow to a garage, the labor would be much higher if I replace the batteries one at a time than if I replace all of them at once. It might be about the same price to replace the whole pack every 3500 miles as replacing the batteries one at a time but get more miles per battery.

Many impractical activities are called hobbies. Testing and replacing batteries has become mine.

I believe that replacing batteries one at a time is the cheapest way to run my Sparrow. Having many old batteries in the pack means my range is always just enough to get me to work and back, and not much more.

I feel that batteries are all about equal until just before they fail. Once one battery has more internal resistance than the others it will heat up more and fail faster. Once a battery has less range than the others, its percent of discharge will be greater than the others and it will fail faster.